#1 2009-08-04 19:06:40

Meeting has started.  Bruce not in attendance, due to being under the weather.  Cronin as the chair tonight.

For those that don't know, you can stream the meeting online again.  Link is under the short bus on the right panel

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#2 2009-08-04 19:08:00

I won't be updating ALL night, so please chime in when you can.

1 person for Citizens Participation.  Issues pertaining to sewer project in Oakdale Heights area.

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#3 2009-08-04 19:10:27

Finance committee members in attendance for scheduled meeting.

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#4 2009-08-04 19:11:59

Richard Paulsin (finance chair I believe) said he had a press release for the BOS.  Should have been in their weekly packets.  They can't seem to find them.  I guess no one did there homework.

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#5 2009-08-04 19:14:18

Paulsen said despite Bruce's "fiery" attitude at times, he met with him and Bruce listened well, and Bruce made some good points, and worked with him (Paulsen).

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#6 2009-08-04 19:15:46

No Bruce??? Is he sick without the presence of BoBo?

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#7 2009-08-04 19:16:01

The fin-com press release will target issues that NEED to be addressed. 

Fin-Com said they haven't received the co-operation they needed from the ITA.

No audited statement for 2008.

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#8 2009-08-04 19:16:58

Fin-com is finished as a unit, standing by, without having the numbers and figures

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#9 2009-08-04 19:17:40

Fin Com UNITED in DEMANDING the financial figures pertaining to Town finances.

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#10 2009-08-04 19:18:32

Gee wonder why ITA doesn't give them the figures?

Lawsuits?
Audit?
Insurance trust?

That's commonsense's opinions, not fin-com

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#11 2009-08-04 19:19:37

Fin con wants figures monthly.

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#12 2009-08-04 19:20:04

fin com said to ITA, they didn't want to go to the BOS.  They just wanted figures.

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#13 2009-08-04 19:20:54

Fin com can't predict for the future, if they are given information AFTER the fact.  If they get it up front, they can plan on how to pay and plan.

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#14 2009-08-04 19:22:12

What does it say when the current fin-com, APPOINTED BY THE CURRENT BOARD, can't get any co-operation from the BOS and ITA?  Hmmmm.

That's commonsense opinion again....

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#15 2009-08-04 19:23:46

Fin-com knows there are serious financial problems, and we're not alone in this state.  But they need dialog from the BOS and ITA, plus the community, etc....

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#16 2009-08-04 19:24:48

Cronin says we have accountant know and we're getting an auditor.

Cronin agrees fin con needs info, but ITA has been busy.

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#17 2009-08-04 19:26:12

Brenda said the press release was released today to their office.  Will resolve first three issues in press release. New (non-qualified) accountant will get to it.  Auditor has completed audit AS FAR AS HE CAN, according to ITA.  Draft audit by next week according to ITA.

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#18 2009-08-04 19:26:46

2008 should have done by Feb and March according to ITA, but Bliss issues delayed the auditor.

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#19 2009-08-04 19:28:31

Jane blows smoke up the fin-com's ass by thanking them.  Jane always advocated for a change in government because of STUFF LIKE THIS.  And she welcomes the town accountant.  Then she thanks her microphone for being there when she speaks.

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#20 2009-08-04 19:30:59

09 won't be audited till October.  Kind of the norm.  Books have yet to be closed.  Jane said they will get what they need.  She's confident in new (non-qualified) accountant.  But looks into her cauldren and predicts more financial woes and changes.  And thanks them again.

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#21 2009-08-04 19:31:40

Cruz repeats Brenda's and Jane's thoughts.  Accountant will work hard.  Come to us if you need further information.

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#22 2009-08-04 19:32:36

Paulsen asks Cronin if he sees the value in receiving micro reports on a regular basis.  He says yes, Jane says I see value in lots of things.....

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#23 2009-08-04 19:33:50

Jane is unsure if reports can be put together like that.  Might be time consuming.  Might not be able to include every thing.  Accountant might not have time to gather figures, blah blah blah

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#24 2009-08-04 19:34:42

Paulsen says to get the report out by an experiences data person should take NO MORE THAN TWO DAYS.  He's showing examples from his own company.

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#25 2009-08-04 19:35:27

Says he knows how to do it, he has done it, and he's not going to take the answer, "I don't know if we will have the time."

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#26 2009-08-04 19:37:14

FYI:  Town Accountant is referred to as "Biz"

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#27 2009-08-04 19:37:58

Brenda assures accountant will work hard.  (Is this while she's going to school for her degree--commonsense)

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#28 2009-08-04 19:38:40

Brenda says...wait for it.... accountant will bring her skills to the table.

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#29 2009-08-04 19:40:22

Cronan defending the fact ITA has 900 things on his table, so it's tough to get to everything.... but now we have a new accountant.  Let's give her a chance.  ITA needs to get credit when he stays with issue, rather than kicking it down the road.

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#30 2009-08-04 19:40:33

Yes, but Brenda could remember what the accountant said at her interview but couldn't remember if she had a degree in accounting? Huh? Do these people love to hear themselves talk? Cronin is going on and on about how great ita is.

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#31 2009-08-04 19:41:18

Nah Molly, she couldn't remember the question "biz" asked, even though she used it as an example.

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#32 2009-08-04 19:42:02

Snide comment about Brady meeting, but not even a good quip.

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#33 2009-08-04 19:42:29

Comment was just about people judging the BOS performance.

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#34 2009-08-04 19:43:24

Jane wants to quell "hate mongering" about DOR being able to take over, or that DOR can force an override.  Jane said the DOR cannot force override on anyone.  Remember that quote!!

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#35 2009-08-04 19:44:50

Fin-com says again, we want to know where the money is going prior, NOT a bill that it already happened.

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#36 2009-08-04 19:45:43

fin-com is working with Kopelmen and Page to find out what the legal bills are.

Fin-com concerned about the 39 pending lawsuits.

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#37 2009-08-04 19:45:53

Why can't we see the speakers tonight? Who is running the camera? Marilyn Donahue is working with K and P who said they have 39 active law suits going on. $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

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#38 2009-08-04 19:46:01

Fin com hopes to have legal numbers in two weeks.

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#39 2009-08-04 19:46:33

Town councel said at Town Meeting there were that many pending lawsuits.

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#40 2009-08-04 19:49:25

Please, ANY public speakers....

Brush up on your quotes and idioms if you are going to use them.  Both sides have used improper phrases....

A day late and dollar shy....

I know, I'm knit picking, must the after dinner beverage.

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#41 2009-08-04 19:50:50

Jane reminds you of the CV Festival this weekend....

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#42 2009-08-04 19:51:14

Insert your own joke here

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#43 2009-08-04 19:53:06

Slager is here

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#44 2009-08-04 19:53:50

Rushed back from his family vacation, only to find out his hero is sick

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#45 2009-08-04 19:54:08

The DOR cannot force an override, per Jane Donahue.

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#46 2009-08-04 19:54:28

What? I thought he was in goofy land. That was a quick vacation.

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#47 2009-08-04 19:55:08

Larry McDonald wrote:

The DOR cannot force an override, per Jane Donahue.

Remember, she said the library couldn't lose their accredidation either.

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#48 2009-08-04 19:58:09

future Jane quote, "I am shocked and appalled that the DOR is playing politics like this by forcing an override, blah blah blah..."

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#49 2009-08-04 19:58:28

I'm taping it so it's available if there is a conflict

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#50 2009-08-04 19:58:46

SeaRay, any signs of Paul Shooter?  Oh wait, you said Slager was there, so the answer is YES.

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#51 2009-08-04 19:58:56

Commonsense, are you saying Jane might not be telling the truth? I'm shocked.

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#52 2009-08-04 19:59:05

You're the man Larry!

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#53 2009-08-04 20:00:12

Shooter is posing a flag behind the selectmen! He is the master of disguise!

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#54 2009-08-04 20:00:29

She sees a lot of truth in lots of things, just like she sees value in lots of things.  And she thanks you for your truth and your values.

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#55 2009-08-04 20:01:07

Maybe PShooter is his twin

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#56 2009-08-04 20:02:19

We can see the speakers now. Strange that we couldn't see fin com.

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#57 2009-08-04 20:05:24

announcement of new provision chief Richard Stanley.  20-24 hrs a week.  Still chief in N Andover.

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#58 2009-08-04 20:05:53

More hours in summer, reduced in winter.  Will be at CV Festival to see how well things are done in dept.

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#59 2009-08-04 20:06:17

trained in issues that are issues in Wareham (?)

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#60 2009-08-04 20:07:17

ITA thought he was the best choice.  Asked him to meet the board at next meeting.

Cronan gives props to Wallace, knows he'll be a big help to the new guy (that took his job people--commonsense)

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#61 2009-08-04 20:08:57

The land stuff makepeace is talking about is head spinning.... I haven't a clue what they are looking for, or what the BOS issue is.

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#62 2009-08-04 20:10:06

Did you expect Brenda to be quiet on a Makepeace issue?

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#63 2009-08-04 20:11:36

Had to do with right of first refusal on a piece of land off Lou Ave.

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#64 2009-08-04 20:12:02

Agawam Lake Shore Dr issue from Brady meeting is brought up by ITA

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#65 2009-08-04 20:12:40

Hopefull will be corrected at Town Meeting because the 120 day deadline passed (because of the ITA, if you went to the Brady Meeting)

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